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Quest · #40074
A Delivery of Swords
Level 37
Requires 30
Collect the Delivery of Swords from Clarise Gnarltree. Description Watch Paladin Janathos requisitioned some swords a while ago, and while he paid me to make the swords, I have been having trouble finding a way to deliver them. The nearest blacksmith with the proper materials was Darkshire.Clarise Gnarltree was paid to craft swords for Sorrowguard. You shall find her there. Could you head to Darkshire and gather the swords for me? They will surely help ease the load on my crafting and make the b
Quest · #41328
A Favor Asked
Level 60
Requires 30
For Akh Z'ador to create a Pure Draenethyst Gemstone, bring him the following. He awaits in the Harborage in the Swamp of Sorrows. Flawless Draenethyst SphereArcane Essence (5) Description ! A pleasure seeing you again. How have you been faring? We are still in the process of restoration, but the morale of most stays high. Some are still anxious of the uncertain future we might face.I have been looking into the pure draenethyst gemstone I gave you and I am certain I can reproduce one with the kn
Quest · #40207
A Pinch of Venom
Level 41
Requires 34
Collect 5 Deathstrike Venom for Thultash in Stonard. Deathstrike Venom (5) Description The deathstrike tarantulas are a formidable foe out within the swamps that lurk just southeast of Stonard. They can be found creeping about the swamps and laying traps for those they hunt.It is from these tarantulas that I ask you to gather their poison. I have been attempting to mix the tang of poison, once nullified, into food. In truth, I do have ulterior motives of attempting to make such recipes work. Per
Quest · #40072
Areyntall Family Value
Level 37
Requires 30
Collect the Areyntall Strongbox for Sir Areyntall. Areyntall Strongbox Description The Areyntall family has been a noble house within Stormwind for quite some time, and Lordaeron before that. We made our fortunes from naval trade and procured rare materials from far away lands to sell within the Kingdom.I cannot take full credit. Of course, it was my father's doing, but I hoped to live up to the same legacy as he. I did well for a while nonetheless and ran my family's ship, the Crownguard, for a
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Quest · #40079
Avoiding Detection
Level 37
Requires 30
Kill 8 Stonard Scouts for Watch Sergeant Arthur. Stonard Scout slain (8) Description Sorrowguard has stood since its construction before the First War. While the orcs destroyed it during that war, the walls still stand. This, of course, is thanks to Watch Paladin Janathos. Without his efforts in bringing the workforce here and conducting repairs this place would be nothing more than a smoldering ruin.It is with this knowledge of the past that we must protect what we have done here. The orcs of S
Quest · #40071
Biggs' Report to Sorrowguard
Level 35
Requires 30
Deliver Biggs' Report to Watch Paladin Janathos. Biggs Report Description Traveler, please!I need this letter delivered, and quickly! It details everything that happened to the caravan. My commander is within the old Sorrowguard keep to the northwest, tucked within the mountains near Deadwind Pass. Take this to him, and with haste! Progress Yes, may I assist? Completion Thanks for delivering this report. I trust Biggs can manage to get here. The Draenei of the region have become a problem that n
Quest · #40206
Collecting Mushrooms
Level 37
Requires 30
Collect 10 Sorrowmoss Mushrooms for Thultash in Stonard. Sorrowmoss Mushroom (10) Description The Swamps are ridden with insect, fungus, and predator. It is only a few of these that can be enjoyable in meals. Deep within the swamps are a special kind of mushroom, one that I have tinkered with in the past! It can be used as a poison, though in small doses can add quite a lot to meals, or if prepared correctly, the ill-effects of its poison can be negated.Sorrowmoss Mushrooms can be found across t
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Quest · #1428
Continued Threat
Level 45
Requires 35
Kill 10 Marsh Inkspewers, 10 Marsh Flesheaters, and 10 Marsh Oracles, then return to Katar in the Swamp of Sorrows. Marsh Inkspewer slain (10) Marsh Flesheater slain (10) Marsh Oracle slain (10) Description It pleases me to see your hatred for the fish men grows with mine.Find more of their kind along the beach, and when you've had your fill of combat, return to me. We shall speak then of a reward for your diligence. Progress Not until the sea and all her children are silenced will I be pleased.
Quest · #1425
Deliver the Shipment
Level 42
Requires 30
Bring the Shipment to Nethergarde to Quartermaster Lungertz in Nethergarde Keep. Shipment to Nethergarde Description While I fix this wagon, , I have one last task for you.I have packed the most vital supplies saved from the ogre attacks. Take them to Nethergarde Keep. The keep is nestled in the northern hills of the Blasted Lands, keeping watch over the Dark Portal.To reach Nethergard, follow the road east. When it branches head south into the Blasted Lands, then turn left at the next fork. Fol
Quest · #1389
Draenethyst Crystals
Level 35
Requires 30
Bring 6 Draenethyst crystals to Magtoor at The Harborage in the Swamp of Sorrows. Draenethyst Crystal (6) Description The lost ones who live in the Fallow Sanctuary look as we look, but they are monsters... driven mad by the rigors of our journey to Azeroth. Once our brethren, they now live in the Fallow Sanctuary to the east, catching or killing any who wander near.And they have stolen something sacred to us--draenethyst crystals.We lack the force to enter the Fallow Sanctuary and reclaim our s
Quest · #40032
Draenic Communication
Level 39
Requires 30
Gather 6 Tangled Essence and a Marsh Murloc Eye for Sanv K'la. Tangled Essence (6)Marsh Murloc Eye Description Akh Z'ador is a Riftseeker who led us to this world. He was one of the few of our kind that knew the magic of our ancient ancestors. He was skilled enough to bring our entire tribe here, and that of the Fallow Sanctuary, with the help of the other lesser Riftseekers.A few weeks ago, he attempted to return to the old world in search of more exiles to bring to the Harborage. I suspect som
Quest · #1398
Driftwood
Level 42
Requires 30
Bring 8 pieces of Sundried Driftwood to Watcher Biggs in the Swamp of Sorrows. Sundried Driftwood (8) Description I owe you greatly, . An honorable heart beats within you. And now I have another task for which I humbly ask your aid.If I'm ever to reach Nethergarde, then I must fix this wagon. And for that... I will need wood. Strong, dry wood--not the spongy, tangled wood of the swamp's trees., go east to the coast and search for driftwood that has been dried by the sun. Bring it to me. Progress
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Quest · #1396
Encroaching Wildlife
Level 37
Requires 30
Kill 8 Young Sawtooth Crocolisks, 10 Sorrow Spinners and 10 Swamp Jaguars then return to Watcher Biggs in the Swamp of Sorrows. Young Sawtooth Crocolisk slain (8) Sorrow Spinner slain (10) Swamp Jaguar slain (10) Description My caravan was destined for the eastern coast, but we did not reach our goal. Lost Ones attacked us, killing guards and dashing supplies.I alone survived their assault. I have sworn to protect what supplies remain, but wild creatures skulk near. Please, help me defend my cam
Quest · #41326
Fate Of The Harborage
Level 60
Requires 30
Alert Sanv K'la of the imminent danger. Sanv Tas'dal slain Description Quickly, rush to the Harborage and warn Sanv K'la! If we do not evacuate all in time, who knows what horrible tragedy will befall us! I will attempt to contact Master Akh Z'ador in the meantime, hopefully he can aid us sooner than anticipated. , I place all my hopes on you. Perhaps there is still time. Reward You can choose one of these awards: Garbs of the Riftwalker Nethershard Band Harborage Defender Pauldrons Draenethyst
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Quest · #40033
Finding Akh Z'ador
Level 52
Requires 30
Find Akh Z'ador. Description My strength is sapped. I feel aged and weak, but I saw a city. A city that was submerged beneath the waves, as if the tides themselves had come and drowned it all. There were tall cliffs, massive in scale, and it seemed as if the spirits there wallowed in misery. Red leaves fell from the trees and a strong magic lingered and pulsated as if it wanted me gone. It weakened me and made it hard to focus.I am certain that Akh Z'ador is on this world right now. He must have
Quest · #40076
Food Improvision
Level 38
Requires 30
Collect 5 Heavy Jaguar Flanks from Swamp Jaguars in Swamp of Sorrows for Quartermaster Davin. Heavy Jaguar Flank (5) Description I manage the supplies here in Sorrowguard, and let me tell you, we are getting close to rationing. We keep and manage our supplies, and I make sure that we have a lock on most things, but the one thing we are coming short on is food. It would certainly mean a lot if you could help me improvise for the next coming while.The jaguars in the area are probably the closest t
Quest · #1430
Fresh Meat
Level 44
Requires 35
Bring 10 Monstrous Crawler Legs to Dar in the Swamp of Sorrows. Monstrous Crawler Leg (10) Description There's a high demand for the succulent taste of crawler meat among my customers; especially the meat from the monstrous crawlers.If you plan on heading to the coast, then I could easily make it worth your while to bring me back some of their legs to have transported back to Orgrimmar.The coast is to the east from here, and you should have no problem finding the creatures scurrying along the be
Quest · #1393
Galen's Escape
Level 38
Requires 30
Escort Galen out of danger, then find his camp in the Swamp of Sorrows and open his strongbox. Description Please help! These creatures are going to eat me!Help me out of here, and I'll give you a great treasure! It's in my camp in the swamp north of Stonard, but it's locked in a strongbox that can be opened through a trick that only I know.If you help me escape, then I'll teach it to you. Reward You will receive: Visionary Buckler Completion The keyhole of this strongbox is filled with black re
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Quest · #40029
Hunting the Hunters
Level 36
Requires 30
Slay 8 Lost One Muckdwellers and 3 Lost One Hunters. Lost One Hunter slain (3) Lost One Muckdweller slain (8) Description The lost ones of Fallow Sanctuary are a menace to the Harborage. Every day, we must live in fear that they attack in their state of madness. We do not have the Draenei to fight them off should they ever gather into a large enough force.The Muckdwellers have been scouting the Harborage for days now, and I sense that they may be preparing for something. I ask you to help us sla
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Quest · #3512
In Eranikus' Own Words
Level 55
Requires 48
Travel to the eastern part of Winterspring and speak with Umbranse the Spiritspeaker. Description , our first step will be to devise a method to speak with Eranikus through the gem. He lies in a precarious state between sleep and death now, twisted within a weave of nightmares. Though the essence you have given me is badly tainted, there is a chance we can reach him.Travel far to the icy lands of eastern Winterspring and seek one of our mortal allies, Umbranse the Spiritspeaker. He is a human me
Quest · #40073
Iron for Sorrowguard
Level 37
Requires 30
Gather 20 Iron Bars for Janet Hollowworth in Sorrowguard Keep. Iron Bar (20) Description They promised that we would be well-supplied when we departed from Stormwind, only for us to be left out here with hardly anything to work with. What supplies we did receive, Watch Paladin Janathos paid for—mostly out of his own pocket from shipments on the eastern coast. Ever since those shipments stopped, we have gotten nothing.You can't imagine how hard it is to maintain equipment with such a small supply
Quest · #698
Lack of Surplus
Level 40
Requires 35
Bring 8 Unprepared Sawtooth Flanks to Tok'Kar in Swamp of Sorrows. Unprepared Sawtooth Flank (8) Description I'm working on getting some supplies together for our outpost near the beach to the east--Tok'kar does what he can, but between shifts of guard duty and cooking for his soldiers there's not much time left in the day.They do enjoy cooking up some sawtooth meat when they can, but I haven't had time to get them another shipment. Would you mind helping them out?The young sawtooths aren't as t
Quest · #699
Lack of Surplus
Level 42
Requires 35
Bring 6 Sawtooth Snapper Claws to Tok'Kar in the Swamp of Sorrows. Sawtooth Snapper Claw (6) Description With the threat of murlocs along the coast, we're stationed out here to protect--or warn if the force is too large--of any coming threats to Stonard. It doesn't give us much time for relaxation, and we could use some more help if you're able.The sawtooth snappers' claws make for fine weapons when properly prepared. Bring me some of their claws and I'll see you're rewarded with one of our weap
Quest · #40031
Leather, a Draenic Luxury
Level 35
Requires 30
Gather 10 Sawtooth Leather for Masat T'andr. Sawtooth Leather (10) Description It is good to work with leather again. On our old planet of Outland, we had scarce access to this resource. It was considered a rarity, a luxury there with the lack of beasts and lack of water. Our planet was once as dense and populated as this world until the demons came, and the waters dried. It is like we live in a paradise on Azeroth. I had my doubts about Sanv K'la and his plan at first, but it seems like this la
Quest · #41327
Manifested Oddities
Level 60
Requires 30
Speak with Akh Z'ador in the Harborage. Description Much needs to be done, the Harborage is in disarray and many have been injured. You have to excuse me, as I need to tend to my brethren. While any help would be appreciated, I must insist on leaving this to us for now. You have done enough already and it'd be rude to ask for more.Before you depart however, Akh Z'ador wishes to speak with you again about something urgent. You can find him outside. Enkil Toralar, friend, and good tidings to you.
Quest · #40113
Might of the Horde
Level 60
Requires 58
Slay 4 Twilight Cultists and retrieve the Second Plate of Uldum north of the "Temple of Old". Return to Sage Truthseeker with the Second Plate and news of his expedition. Dietmar Onlooker slain Zokk Flamefist slain Wahjez'fon slain Jovany Staunch slain Second Plate of Uldum Description Hahaha, this be not the death I thought I would end up with, but Bwonsamdi appears to have other plans for me.I lived a life with no regrets, —until now. I ask this of you, friend. Go north of here after those bas
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Quest · #1418
Neeka Bloodscar
Level 35
Requires 30
Speak with Neeka Bloodscar. Description The Badlands is harsh and lies close to the Alliance-held land of Loch Modan, so communication between Stonard and the Badlands outpost of Kargath is often cut.Prove yourself, . Travel to the Badlands and speak with Neeka Bloodscar, head scout of the Kargath outpost. Speak with her, and then send her report back to me. Completion Helgrum wants a report, eh? I sent an outrunner to Stonard not three days past. Did he fail his mission? If Stonard does not hav
Quest · #1392
Noboru the Cudgel
Level 39
Requires 29
Bring Noboru's Cudgel to the leader of The Harborage in the Swamp of Sorrows. Noboru's Truncheon Description Noboru has plagued the Draenei of the Harborage for months, and his cudgel is a symbol of the brutality they have suffered at the hands of the lost ones. Progress Greetings. And welcome to the Harborage. Completion You have gained the weapon of the dreaded Noboru? Is he then dead?This is a joyous day for the Harborage. Noboru and his gang were a terror to us, wandering the swamps and kill
Quest · #40030
Noboru the Cudgel
Level 36
Requires 30
Find and slay Noboru the Cudgel, and bring Noboru's Cudgel to Magtoor. Noboru's Cudgel Description There is one we fear. His name is Noboru the Cudgel, and he roams with a band of thugs who terrorize us at every opportunity. He is a skilled warrior from our old tribe on Outland. Very few in the village can stand up to him and his goons both. Noboru has enacted great brutality on the Harborage and killed members of our tribe without any sign of remorse.Noboru must be stopped. You must kill him fo
Quest · #1424
Pool of Tears
Level 43
Requires 38
Fel'zerul in Stonard wants you to gather 10 Atal'ai Artifacts. Atal'ai Artifact (10) Description The Warchief sent us to investigate strange happenings at The Temple of Atal'Hakkar.The Atal'ai trolls are a tribe of dark casters, known for practicing forbidden magic. You can imagine how astonished we were when we arrived here to discover the temple had been sunk.The green dragons now guard the site, claiming to be protectors of Azeroth.We need to discover what happened. Explore around the Pool of
Quest · #40105
Pride of the Dwarves
Level 60
Requires 58
Slay 4 Twilight Cultists and retrieve the Second Plate of Uldum north of the "Temple of Old". Return to High Explorer Magellas with the plate and news of his expedition. Dietmar Onlooker slain Zokk Flamefist slain Wahjez'fon slain Jovany Staunch slain Second Plate of Uldum Description I've never begged in my life, , but I'll start now. Please! Avenge us and show those bastards what happens when you make an enemy of the Alliance! They——went north of here.For Khaz Mo... Progress Any news? Completi
Quest · #40232
Returning to Janathos
Level 38
Requires 30
Deliver the Scroll of Blessing to Watch Paladin Janathos at Sorrowguard Keep in Swamp of Sorrows. Scroll of Blessing Description With the tome in my charge I would ask of you to bring a scroll to Watch Paladin Janathos in Sorrowguard Keep. From this scroll I hope to bless him and those underneath his command, for the light to watch over them safely, and deliver them from evil.When you see him, be sure to mention I wish him well. Progress Have you spoken with Benedictus? Completion So, then it is
Quest · #40077
Sorrowmoss Mushrooms!
Level 37
Requires 30
Collect 10 Sorrowmoss Mushrooms for 'Sly' Duncan. Sorrowmoss Mushroom (10) Description Howdy, partner! Don't see many new faces here, especially in this old, beaten-up castle! Surely you've heard the rumors of brave defenders holding off the orcs for days on end before being destroyed! What a tale. I could also tell you stories about the mushrooms in Swamp of Sorrows, especially Sorrowmoss Mushrooms!Sorrowmoss Mushrooms only grow within this region. They have a certain... "taste" to them once yo
Quest · #40075
Swords to Sorrowguard
Level 37
Requires 30
Take the Delivery of Swords to Janet Hollowworth in Sorrowguard Keep. Delivery of Swords Description It has been so long since I last heard from Sorrowguard. I honestly had assumed the orcs had taken or destroyed the keep—that, or something equally as bad. I am not a cynic, just a realist. It's a dangerous place, that swamp!Still, I held onto the swords, just in case something bad happened to us. It's better to have them than have some coin, I figure. Take them to Janet. She should be relieved I
Quest · #40095
Tales of the Past
Level 38
Requires 30
Find the Forgotten Tome within the Swamp of Sorrows. Forgotten Tome Description Sorrowguard Keep once held the Orcish Horde at bay for two weeks. Day after day, orcs attacked these walls and were repelled by brave defenders of the Kingdom of Azeroth. They battled from one end of the swamp all the way back to these very walls.My mentor was one such hero who took the call and met the horde within these lands. As much of a hero he was, he gave his life so others had the chance to survive. When I wa
Quest · #1429
The Atal'ai Exile
Level 44
Requires 38
Bring the Bundle of Atal'ai Artifacts to the Atal'ai Exile in the Hinterlands. Bundle of Atal'ai Artifacts Description While you were braving the dangers of the Pool of Tears, one of my scouts returned with a scroll written in blood on dried flesh. It seems to be a judicial sentence against a priest of the Atal'ai tribe.This priest was sentenced to a fate worse than death amongst the Atal'ai.He was exiled to live far north in the Hinterlands, with the Witherbark trolls.I will bundle these artifa
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Quest · #41296
The Collector
Level 48
Requires 42
Locate Kum'isha in the Blasted Lands. Description My people have been divided. We've endured much on the escape from our home, in search of security and a place to survive. While my brethren in the Harborage remained resilient and clung to hope, I cannot say the same about the lost ones. Their madness has taken a deep hold in their minds, and its roots cannot be cut anymore. In a fruitless endeveour to return to the hellscape that is Draenor, they gather the Draenethyst crystals, potent gems fro
Quest · #40304
The Depths of Karazhan I
Level 60
Requires 58
Search for the Pendant of Ardan, rumored to be held by the ogre Var'zhog, collect it, and return to Kor'gan in Stonard. Pendant of Ardan Description I have been sent by a council of mages from Orgrimmar to look into the growing power that emits from Karazhan. I have done much research into the tower itself and the artifacts that once belonged in the ruins around it.I have some hunches, the first of which is that the energy that me, and the other mages have felt is coming from beneath Karazhan. I
Quest · #40305
The Depths of Karazhan II
Level 60
Requires 58
Gather 8 Ghostly Substance from the ghosts around Karazhan, and return to Kor'gan at Stonard. Ghostly Substance (8) Description With the Pendant of Ardan in our hands we can turn our attention to the tower itself, and what magic has begun to raise more ghosts around it. As of recently, the dead have begun to materialize, spirits and echoes of the past clinging around the tower as if they were still alive.Travel to the ruins around Karazhan, and from the ghosts and dead bring me 8 Ghostly Substan
Quest · #40306
The Depths of Karazhan III
Level 60
Requires 58
Bring Kor'gan's Crate to Gunther Arcanus at Brightwater Lake. Kor'gan's Crate Description .It would appear that what we are dealing with is beyond my power, it is intense in arcane energy, with something else that is not familiar to me...There is one I know who may be of assistance, who was a member of the Kirin Tor in life, his name is Gunther Arcanus. He lives within the center of Brightwater Lake in Tirisfal Glades, just northeast of Brill.With his knowledge within Dalaran, perhaps he can be
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Quest · #40307
The Depths of Karazhan IV
Level 60
Requires 58
Return to Kor'gan in Stonard with the information given by Gunther Arcanus. Description My my... Such potent energy, I had always guessed that Karazhan had natural ley energy, in fact it was rumored within Dalaran. Kor'gan was correct to bring these samples to me, they will make good for future projects. The energy that lingers beneath the arcane is that of necromancy, and quite potent necromancy at that.Long ago, I spent quite some time at Karazhan. I was under mission from the Kirin Tor to loo
Quest · #40308
The Depths of Karazhan V
Level 60
Requires 58
Gather the Old Crypt Key, and the Mark of Karazhan from around the ruins of Karazhan for Kor'gan in Stonard. Mark of KarazhanOld Crypt Key Description If we are to reforge the key, then we will need the items that Gunther Arcanus had hinted to. I have no doubts in my mind that both of these items can be found lingering around the tower.The first item we shall acquire is the key itself, there are rumors of a sickly, pale human who emerges when not a living soul is about, to tend the grounds aroun
Quest · #40309
The Depths of Karazhan VI
Level 60
Requires 58
Wait for Kor'gan to reforge the Karazhan Crypt Key. The Karazhan Crypt Key has been reforged Description Now then, you have done your deeds with honor intact, it is my time to uphold my end of the bargain. It will take some time, and great concentration, but I will work to reforge the Karazhan Crypt Key.With everything in place, it should allow entry into the Crypts of Karazhan! Now, step back, and behold my power! Reward You will receive: Karazhan Crypt Key Progress Yes? Completion So, the stor
Quest · #40310
The Depths of Karazhan VII
Level 60
Requires 58
Venture forth into the Karazhan Crypts, once inside slay Alarus, the watcher of the Crypts for Kor'gan in Stonard. Alarus slain Description There is only one step left for us, as honorable members of the Horde. We must step forth into the darkness, and vanquish this evil before it grows even stronger. If we were to let the humans deal with this, who knows if they could even stop it?As Grom Hellscream slayed Mannoroth, we too must look upon something terrible and destroy it from this world. I ask
Quest · #3374
The Essence of Eranikus
Level 55
Requires 48
Bring the Oathstone of Ysera's Dragonflight and the Chained Essence of Eranikus to Itharius in the Swamp of Sorrows. It is there that you will make your choice to aid Ysera's Dragonflight or not. Oathstone of Ysera's DragonflightChained Essence of Eranikus Description You engage the Oathstone, and Itharius speaks directly to your mind through the stone."By accepting the charge placed in this Oathstone, you agree to aid my cause and the cause of Ysera's Dragonflight in redeeming the corrupted sou
Quest · #40231
The Forgotten Tome
Level 38
Requires 30
Take the Forgotten Tome to Archbishop Benedictus in Stormwind. Forgotten Tome Description This tome holds a great history to the nation of Stormwind, and should be stored as such. A holy warrior fell on this battlefield many years ago, and this tome remains intact. The tomes words are holy scripture, and I would ask it be placed amongst the Cathedral's great books.I ask of you to travel to Stormwind, and speak with Archbishop Benedictus, to see if he would take this book within the Cathedral to
Quest · #40028
The Horn of Garek'sa
Level 36
Requires 30
Find the Horn of Garek'sa for Har Na'lan at the Fallow Sanctuary. Horn of Garek'sa Description I was once the master hunter of the tribe long ago. I stalked the paths of Outland with efficiency and defeated many fearsome foes. Both orc and beast alike were slain by my swift arrows and deadly proficiency.But, I am no longer Har Na'lan the great hunter, I am Har Na'lan the old. I can feel age slowing me down, and even the local wildlife has been a challenge.Over six hundred years ago, I slew my mo
Quest · #40209
The Hunt for Sorrowclaw
Level 41
Requires 34
Bring the Paw of Sorrowclaw to Zun'dartha in Stonard. Paw of Sorrowclaw Description Many long months I have spent in this hellscape hunting for a large jaguar. I have given it the nickname Sorrowclaw, for its ferocity and where it comes from. I have attempted to catch it, fight it, and even stalk Sorrowclaw, but every time I have been outsmarted.It is as if the beast is three steps ahead of me at all times and I long to see its terror within the swamp come to an end. Perhaps you are a better hun